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Valley population loss leads nation

Staff, wire reports
POSTED: March 28, 2008



The Youngstown-Warren metropolitan area led the nation in percentage of population loss, according to an estimate released Thursday — a finding that a prominent businessman said presents an opportunity to intensify economic development efforts.

The area, which includes Boardman and Mercer, Pa., lost 1 percent of its population from July 2006 to July 2007 — falling by 5,898 residents to 570,704 from 576,602, the U.S. Census Bureau estimated.

The percentage loss nearly doubled that of Detroit-Warren-Livonia, Mich., which suffered the nation’s largest population loss of 27,314, a 0.6 percent decrease.

On strictly numbers, Detroit lost more than three times as many people as any other metro area. Other areas losing more than 5,000 people were Youngstown, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Columbus, Ga., and Buffalo, N.Y.

Anthony Cafaro Jr., vice president of Youngstown real estate development firm The Cafaro Co., said the report shows the need to stress the area’s attributes.

‘‘There’s an opportunity for us to attract more workers based on competitive advantages we have — our low cost-of-living, roads and other infrastructure, our proximity to Cleveland and Pittsburgh, New York and Chicago and an airport that’s an untapped asset,’’ he said. ‘‘Hopefully, our government leaders and private leaders will work together to attract people and business.’’

A labor leader echoed the need to develop jobs that will attract and keep workers.

‘‘I don’t see too many people trying to keep jobs here,’’ said Jim Graham, president of United Auto Workers Local 1112 at the General Motors Corp. Lordstown Complex, the area’s largest manufacturing employer. ‘‘We need to start promoting this area and bring jobs back so young people have jobs to go to.’’

Population losses haunted the nation’s ‘‘Rust Belt.’’ The Cleveland-Elryia-Mentor area lost 0.4 percent, or 8,848 people. Buffalo-Niagara Falls, N.Y., shrank by 5,166 people, or 0.5 percent.

Nationally, four Texas metropolitan areas were among the biggest population gainers as Americans continued their trend of moving to the Sun Belt in 2006 and 2007.

Dallas-Fort Worth added more than 162,000 residents between July 2006 and July 2007, more than any other metro area. Three other Texas areas — Houston, Austin and San Antonio — also cracked the top 10.

Atlanta saw the second-largest population jump with just over 151,000 new residents. Phoenix was third with more than 132,000, and was followed by Houston, Riverside, Calif., Charlotte, N.C., Chicago, Austin, Las Vegas and San Antonio.

Of the 50 fastest-growing metro areas, 27 were in the South and 20 were in the West. Two were in the Midwest, one — Fayetteville, Ark. — straddles the South and Midwest and none was in the Northeast.

Experts credit much of the growth in the South to relatively strong local economies and housing prices that are among the most affordable in the U.S.

‘‘People are running away from unaffordable housing, from the economic slowdown,’’ said Karl Eschbach, a state demographer in Texas. ‘‘I would expect Texas to stay at the top of a slowing game.’’

According to figures compiled by Eschbach, 16 percent of Americans who moved to other states between July 2006 and July 2007 came to Texas, which led the nation for the second straight year in that category.

Home prices continue to be a big factor. A report earlier this month by Global Insight found that housing prices in the Dallas area were undervalued by as much as 30 percent.

Ann Sekesan, a pharmacy technician, moved her family from Pennsylvania to suburban Fort Worth last June after seeing spacious homes in Texas for under $200,000 on a television show.

‘‘After we saw that on TV, my husband and I looked at each other and said, ‘Have you ever been to Texas?’’ Sekesan said. ‘‘It’s amazing the size of a home you can get down here. It’s just incredible.’’

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Billdog
04-23-08 11:36 AM
Like I said, "Things aren't so great elsewhere Marty!" We need better government across the country. It isn't just our area. Warren is great place to live and work. I have no intention of leaving. People need to train for the jobs that are here if they want to stay here. Business and Marketing are not big market place in the Warren/Youngstown area. If someone choses to educate themselves for that type of work they are just planning on having to leave. Also, the days of ol will never return to our country. Forget still mills and the auto industry, we are a high tech, educated employment industry, or those that choose are left in the service industry. I tried the mills and factorys early in life and that just isn't for me. I found it to be mindless and teadious.

mrcafeman
03-28-08 5:02 PM
I am going to be part of the solution not the problem. I have no plans of going anywhere. I have a business in Warren and think our area's people and cultural diversity is what makes us special. I do have to admit that our city's leadership has failed us as far as economic development. We need to chase grants better and not impose idiotic fees to investors,such as the new ones passed by council on Landlords for inspection fees. I think landlords should be treated as investors. Investors want a return on there money. They will run them out of town now. What about the Banks and there empty houses?

mrcafeman
03-28-08 5:02 PM
I am going to be part of the solution not the problem. I have no plans of going anywhere. I have a business in Warren and think our area's people and cultural diversity is what makes us special. I do have to admit that our city's leadership has failed us as far as economic development. We need to chase grants better and not impose idiotic fees to investors,such as the new ones passed by council on Landlords for inspection fees. I think landlords should be treated as investors. Investors want a return on there money. They will run them out of town now. What about the Banks and there empty houses?

MartyWhite
03-28-08 4:29 PM
Billdog, my job required me to move. I started out in San Fransisco, then was transfered to Austin, then there was an opening in Columbus. I applied for the opening in Columbus and I received the opening. Since then, in January of 2008 the company was bought out and I lost my job. So dont run your trap unless you know the reason why I moved.

Billdog
03-28-08 10:49 AM
Sounds like things not so great else where either Marty. Alot of moving around. Most really be great out there in these other areas you keep leaving.

Billdog
03-28-08 10:38 AM
I have lived in the valley for nearly fifty years. Sinse birth. My syblings have moved away and many friends as well. When we talk things always seem so attractive but for somereason all isn't so well. Frequently my parents report of them asking to borrow money, friends keep coming back, and when I read their local newspaper on line they are experiencing the same problems as us. Low paid jobs, home forclosures, and factories and mills shutting down. There are not any high paying jobs for those without education or special skill anywhere. Then their is the issue of housing cost, crime and other issues not so different from ours. I think I'll stay.

MartyWhite
03-28-08 10:13 AM
I am originally from the Warren area and decided to leave 8 years ago. I moved to San Fransisco to Austin Texas now to Dublin Ohio. My wife and I have a 7 month old baby, since both of our families are from the Mahoning valley she wants to move back there so our baby can be around his family. I asked her where the*****are we going to work. Companies are leaving the Mahoning valley faster than a Warren criminal running from the police. We are not college educated, and we dont have any employment opportunites lined up. My true friend ask me what are you thinking moving back to the area? I tell them I am a just going along with my wife for the better of our child. But in all seriousness 5 years down the road my wife will realize that moving back to the area will be one of the biggest mistakes she will have ever made in her entire life.

pahootaman
03-28-08 9:37 AM
I moved from Howland in 2002 because there's not really too many jobs to select from for College Grads. Unless I wanted to work in marketing for Clear Channel or work at West, I would have to move to Cleveland. Now that Cleveland is going under, I'm moving to DC this fall.

maryjm
03-28-08 9:12 AM
My husband and I recently came to a decision to move out of the area also. The city of Warren has become a haven for criminals. I have had to attend several city council meeting just to beg for the services we should have without asking. The police department from the top on down is useless at this point. I personally watched a prostitute selling herself on the corner of summit and mahoning avenue while sitting at the light. I looked in my rear view mirror there was a Warren policeman behind me he did nothing! The delapitated properties are to numerous to count. WARREN is done stick a fork in her and move on.

Billdog
03-28-08 8:51 AM
It doesn't bother me that people are moving away from the valley. I think everyone forgets that people moved to the valley for nearly 100 years for the jobs in the mills that left nearly 30 years ago. The more people move the less competitive the job market here is. Employers will be forced to pay better because there will be more of them than us. That's how wages became good here prior to the mills moving out. Employers don't move here for employees. They move here because it is good for their business. As long as community's like Youngstown and Warren tax them to death they will go else where. Ohio has some of the highest taxes in the country. Not vary attractive to business.

Pandora
03-28-08 8:16 AM
As a young educated woman I find it increasingly difficult to stay in this area due to the lack of good paying jobs. To be honest the only thing that keeps me here is my entire family lives in Trubmull County. I can't leave them for better oportunities and nicer weather.

Resdnt
03-28-08 8:03 AM
THANK YOU!! To all those who have prayerfully and faithfully made it a commitment to keep their business in the Youngstown - Warren - Boardman - Mercer area!

Thank you!

Judyann
03-28-08 8:02 AM
I would like to comment on the article about the loss of population in the Valley. My husband and I retired and moved to North Carolina 16 months ago. We would have liked to have stayed in the Valley, but the crime rate in the Warren Metro area was more than we could bear. Warren is a blight now and an eye sore to other communities because of lack of Police protection, drug enforcement, rental homes that are not fit for humans nor animals. It is a tradegy and no one seems to care, except Al Novak, and when he speaks, seems those in authority become deaf. How can a community have pride when their city managers don't care? People shouldn't have to beg for protection, for drug crimes to be nipped in the bud, this should be an automatic thing. Fussing about the facade of Harding High School is so costly and stupid, it is a school, not a human item that really matters. Come on Warren, wake up, pretty soon you won't have students to attend the fancy schools you built.

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