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Officials must follow the same rules

September 15, 2013

DEAR EDITOR: Recently our elected representative to Ohio State Legislature was found to be harboring other persons in his single family dwelling located in the northeast portion of Warren, contrary......

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grammy303

Sep-15-13 5:21 AM

Interesting no basis of law in this letter ..only opinion of neighbors.. obviously has not looked into the federal fair housing laws or state or even local ordinances which protect against descrimination in housing for anyone disabled or not..

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grammy303

Sep-15-13 5:42 AM

if housing was based on neighbors opinions our neighborhoods would still be segregated ..like Some are or trying to be.. its why in 2008 federal fairhousing laws supercede ..because there is still too much discrimination going on based on family status ,race ,disability,age,national origin and even military ....... the reality of this situation that is what is going on here

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Business

Sep-15-13 8:07 AM

Elected officials will follow the same rules when the voters stop voting party line or by name recognition. Letson has termed out, and Obrien will take his place. Why? Not because he was a great Mayor, or because the safety forces loved him, or because he was an amazing politician. Form your on opinion on Tom, but you voted him in. Why did Tom get elected for FOUR terms? Was it because he helped the people he represented? Look up his record, he passed something for blind people & something to protect judges. How many folks in his district are judges? In reality, this article has little to do with Letson. It has to do with the voters who voted how they always have voted, but then wonder why nothing in this area has changed or gotten better. I love Warren , but I hate what I see.

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nativio289

Sep-15-13 11:09 AM

It is about a business in the middle of a residential neighborhood.

You and tommy boy can keep harping on about the fair housing and disabilities acts, but it all comes down to what sounds like a fly by night operation charging folks to get clean in a place where you don't belong.

400 bucks a month? That the cost to live there? Is it true one of the operators was fired from a legitimate and long standing area treatment place?

Again, who are the two guys running this place? What are their qualifications? What programs are being run? What kind of qualified supervision is taking place in the Letson Sober House?

Since none of you want to answer those kinds of questions, all anyone has are their opinions.

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nativio289

Sep-15-13 11:11 AM

And how is not being smart enough to put down the bourbon bottle a disability?

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jtoday

Sep-15-13 5:28 PM

grammy303 if one of those residents chose to live in that house with his family nobody could object. But one of those guys pays live there with other guys who pay to live there.

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grammy303

Sep-17-13 5:33 PM

Obviously you guys have Not looked up the fair housing laws americans with disabilities city ordinances nor case laws pertaining to these homes... I have and if they have a right to be let alone ..leave them alone .. its obvious they have Not been served any type of eviction so they must have right to be there .. and if that case its nobody business what rent utilities or any other thing they pay to live together ..if its notanyone business what u pay ..

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grammy303

Sep-17-13 5:36 PM

Nativio dogs b at your house soon since u went public bout breaking law ..so u need to clean ya stuff up b4 trying to point fingers ...

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grammy303

Sep-17-13 5:43 PM

Just maybe if people were more neighborly instead of acting like attack dogs things would b more open ... my parents always said u catch more bees with honey than vinegar ..... when expecting respect and not giving it .. u set ya self up for disappointment ..its makes the neighborhood and city look bad when people are discriminating bcuz of different from personal ideals..its y federal laws got stronger in 2008 ..

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grammy303

Sep-17-13 6:52 PM

And nativio how do you know how much anyone pays for anything ? And yet your questions are not answered ? Sounds like more misinformation from neighbors which u r not .. and if u want to know how alcoholism is a disability since 1954 ama said is a disease ...go look it up b4 opening ya mouth and giving an uneducated opinion .. how do you its a business ? These people have made no public announcement so ur just makin stuff up !

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nativio289

Sep-18-13 11:30 AM

Answer the specific question about this operation and its operators.

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nativio289

Sep-19-13 1:14 AM

Who are the two fellas running this operation?

What are their qualifications and prior experience that entitles them to run an operation like this in the middle of a neighborhood?

What programs are being run in this business?

What supervision is on site for those who are enrolled in this "sober house"?

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grammy303

Sep-20-13 5:08 AM

What entitles you to ask any questions of anybody ? What office do you hold ? What authority do you have ? Are you even coherent on this blog ? Really can you read or even comprehend or are you just unable to hear anyone but yourself ?its too bad when people have contempt prior to investigation

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nativio289

Sep-20-13 4:30 PM

These are questions that affect not only the neighbors around there, but the drunks paying to get clean. I'm sure you know, as someone very much connected to this "sober house", that these operators could be doing more harm than good of it is the fly by night operation many suspect it is.

Who are the two fellas running this operation?

What are their qualifications and prior experience that entitles them to run an operation like this in the middle of a neighborhood?

What programs are being run in this business?

What supervision is on site for those who are enrolled in this "sober house"?

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nativio289

Sep-20-13 4:31 PM

And no, I am very much not "coherent" on this blog. Not at all.

Are you sure you are using that word properly?

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grammy303

Sep-21-13 1:03 AM

like anything else u can assume away and expect all u want ..even stomp feet get high and drunk it free country ...lol u have zero business in someone elses business,,, and now u want someone to look up coherent for ya lol NOT!!

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grammy303

Sep-21-13 1:21 AM

I would Assume u have no experience with recovery process from start of someones active addiction and consequences thru full recovery from the disease since u dont believe it is a disease nor a disablity and cant look that up and think its a matter of will.. yet r demanding answer from people who should answer to u cuz u say so lol talk bout delusional and not even on this blog .. u know what that means rt ? ya know delusional ? maybe u should get assessed dont u think?! hows that for grammar and style :)

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grammy303

Sep-21-13 1:28 AM

obviously STILL have not looked up ANY federal fair housing laws ada laws state fair housing law nor even the city ordinances LOL ..so ur just trying to b a Bully .. u know what that is rt? or u want someone to look that up for you too ? LOL

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grammy303

Sep-21-13 1:41 AM

u definitely need assessed dude .. do u even like ya self ? seriously ...

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grammy303

Sep-21-13 1:58 AM

here a hint american planning association .. they r called community residence ... planners are associated with .. one site with all ya answers that some already have..

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grammy303

Sep-21-13 2:42 AM

to tell the truth i think everyone involved knows the score that y u only one asking questions .. just like in another public situation we know .. and who the voice in that one ? u know , i know everyone knows,, so y ask questions u know the answers to unless u want to control discriminate and bully and really dont want the common folk to know cuz innately they dont know their rts or r too afraid to stand up or it looks bad for those serving,,truth is none of these look at most recent lawsuits going on surrounding the bars and their liquor licenses taken ... r sunshine laws being violated there ? if so maybe they r in this instance .. who serving whom ? my hopes r that the redevelopment plan works in warren like it has in other places in ohio!! the end result is not as important as the journey to get there.with these same tactics as in past will only undermine the goals set esp financially.. i am firm believer that people are innately intelligent. communication or expression is need o

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grammy303

Sep-21-13 3:00 AM

improvement..and most of all we are faced with what we fear most.. i also think everyone as far as the public officials have done their best in serving .. warren is still one of best places to live .. yet throwing people away or bullying them out is not a solution ..there r long term consequences to this rule instead of service. change comes hard with critcism.i would like to believe everyone including nativio is doing their best. does that make me soft? no!will this recovery house make it ? idk !if not given a chance how many lives is that worth ?is one your kids worthy of that sacrifice? not mine if they need in future. so if u can say ya r more power to u and good luck with that warren being in top 10 highest in op iate abuse in ohio and 1in10 alcoholic and then have street stuff..

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nativio289

Sep-21-13 9:35 AM

Your grammar and writing skills are diminishing, are you back to drinking yourself? Or are you purposely writing beneath your level as a smokescreen?

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oldmangrumpliveson

Sep-21-13 3:32 PM

Grammy303, type in english please. I am not capable of interpreting hoodrat. Thanks!

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grammy303

Sep-22-13 9:47 AM

not sure what hoodrat is ,sounds like another derogatory statement from the committee of nimbyism ... that better ?

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