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Very little change in city of Warren

September 8, 2013

DEAR EDITOR: As a young lad in Warren, the city in which I was born, black children were relegated to swim in the Mahoning River or wherever we could find water in the summer....

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AbeLincoln

Sep-15-13 2:19 AM

Mordecai: I wish i could hit the agree button on your last comment a million times, I couldn't agree more!

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Mordecai

Sep-10-13 11:06 PM

The more I think about this letter, the more upset it makes me. Mr Wliams, how dare you equate a movie not playing in Warren to the injustices of the Civil Rights era! You say nothing has changed in Warren?!? Are you blind?!? I can assure you, a theater will play a movie if it makes money. I can further assure you that no one makes that decision on the local level; it is made at a corporate office. Mr Williams, YOU are the racist! You are a bitter person who does not want to see progress in race relations. You see, if we actually admit that race relations have vastly improved since the 1950's, people like you would have nothing to complaint about!

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Mordecai

Sep-10-13 6:01 PM

Shame on the Trib for even printing this letter. The uninformed writer is trying to make an issue where none exists. Cry me a river, Doc!

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AbeLincoln

Sep-10-13 12:28 AM

Dr. F. Robert Williams, Get over it & move on to reality. Go watch your fiction movie in Niles, OK it's not Warren but you tell us where there is a movie theater in Warren! Tell Us!

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Billdog

Sep-09-13 1:04 PM

Racism will be gone when people quit choosing to behave like they are better than others and people quit behaving as if they are entitled. Whether white, black, Asian, Hispanic or Native American, we are in this together. Everybody has to do their part to make it work.

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nortman

Sep-09-13 11:02 AM

Well said, insider. I disagree with you, mycommonsense. Racism is very much alive today in all communities. It might not be as prevalent as it once was, but it is very much alive. I see it. The biggest difference between the author, WP, and I is that while they see it only in the white community, I see it everywhere. Not to the degree that they see it, but it still exists.

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insider

Sep-09-13 10:51 AM

“Bitterness is like drinking rat poison and waiting for the rat to die.” ? John Ortberg Jr.,

So injustices from 70 years ago require that all Warrenites must permanently display the "scarlet letter" of racism? It's sad that an apparent business decision is perceived as a racial decision in one man's mind.

BTW, "The Butler" is a work of fiction. What type of person would depend on a made up movie to discover history?

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mycommonsense

Sep-09-13 10:15 AM

Racism now only exists in the minds of people who want it to exist.

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nortman

Sep-09-13 8:58 AM

Why is Col West not worth quoting? Is it because he doesn't toe the Democrat party line?

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jtoday

Sep-09-13 8:55 AM

Allen West????? LiberalSerfdom you now officially are on the list of posters not worth responding to.

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nortman

Sep-09-13 6:45 AM

The premise of the author's letter has been debunked. The movie IS being shown here in the area in spite of his claim. So, since he has been proven wrong, WP has to come here and take shots at "Neocon Republicans".

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WarrenProud

Sep-09-13 5:37 AM

Liberal progressives are an ally of the black community. That's why there is so much negatives coming from the NeoCon Conservatives about liberal progressive ideas like Obamacare which are the best way to move this nation's healthcare forward for all.

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featherstone

Sep-09-13 4:03 AM

A lot has changed, a lot more needs to change.

And that is in all directions, white, black, red, yellow, brown and all shades in between.

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PantherPride

Sep-08-13 10:15 PM

Many different races have been discriminated against in America - mostly because we are not like other homogeneous cultures found in other countries.In my opinion NO one race has ANY right to complain until we do right by those indigenous Native Americans who occupied this land first.Who are we to complain?

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Senator1218

Sep-08-13 6:03 PM

Well put Chad. The true lesson to be learned is that by not knowing history we are condemned to repeat it. So sad that there is little to no tolerance of this valuable letter.

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raven101

Sep-08-13 5:18 PM

figure out the true meaning of racism and let me know

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AbeLincoln

Sep-08-13 3:46 PM

Must be waiting for The Butler to play at the Robins, Daniels, Post or Harrison Theaters. Sorry Long Wait! DUH!

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ChadDouglas

Sep-08-13 2:56 PM

There are some lessons to be learned from Dr. Williams' noteworthy comments. One, it is a true history of what happened in Warren. It is a reminder to not repeat that again whether you are black or white. It also serves to make us all better not hide nor make it worse. Second, for some not all Black youth, to stop playing the blame game, straighten up and become a productive member of society to bring about more change, instead of thinking the world owes you. You will never get respect by taking or stealing from other people nor thinking the world owes you, because of what happened generations ago. Other races had it just as tough, Italian Americans had to change their last names to assimilate into American society. We are all aware of the Holocaust caused by Nazi Germany against the Jewish people, let alone other noted struggles of Jewish people written in the Bible. Don't repeat the past and stop blaming others or feel entitled to everything. All of us be responsible.

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SURV69

Sep-08-13 1:56 PM

Racism isn't what it used to be(when I was young), and for the most part occurs more "covertly" now ... but is easy to spot if/when one wishes to see it.

In the county government there are few black citizens employed ... of course rampant nepotism with nearly(if not complete), all white only elected county officials, leaves a lot less jobs for the general, non-family member public, let alone "other" non-family citizens.

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jtoday

Sep-08-13 1:24 PM

I don't know about this movie but sometimes movies are released in large cities (L.A., New York etc.) one week and then nationally the next. Maybe that is where the confusion is. I also doubt that the local theaters of big chain theaters make any decision about what is shown. That is done at the corporate level.

Hope you get to see the movie.

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Mark9902

Sep-08-13 11:27 AM

hmmm, that movie is playing today on niles boulevard centre at 12:50, 3:50, 6:50, and 9:50. Pick up a paper and make sure you have the right theatre before you try to pull the race card.

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Jo1943

Sep-08-13 10:31 AM

I must differ with Dr. Williams' statement that "The Butler" is not being shown locally. I personally watched the movie at the Niles theater two weeks ago! I was not dreaming...my friend was there with me! Can't think of anything more local than that, other than the Elm Rd. drive-in!

Maybe low ticket sales is the reason it's no longer there???

We did shed some tears over the movie, including the fictional ending. The historical part of the movie was great, but also brought about some tears.

One thing we did notice...not one African-American was in the theater for that afternoon showing on that particular day. You would have liked the movie that day, Dr. Williams, it was not crowded, but a lot of tears were shed by us white folks.

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Daniel

Sep-08-13 9:54 AM

I wonder where all the (1) disagrees came from? LOL!

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builderbob

Sep-08-13 9:42 AM

little has changed in 80 years. Are you serious? Do you think we would have a black mayor and a black president 80 years ago?Let bygones be bygones and quit trying to stir the pot of rasism.

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nortman

Sep-08-13 8:56 AM

Well, since Citizen beat us all to it, I guess the only thing to point out is that it is no surprise that WP would be here applauding a letter that accuses whites of racism while ignoring completely the racism in the minority communities.

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