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Clean sweep?

On April 17, officials indicted 97 suspects in a major one-day operation. But has it had a lasting effect on crime in Warren?

July 21, 2013

Rachael Hathorn can’t say for sure whether crime has declined in her neighborhood since April 17....

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RobinJ

Jul-23-13 12:33 PM

NMC: You are welcome. I thought it wise of you to include the repeated disclaimer! No progress can be made until BOTH sides would agree to treat the other side as they want treated. That would be for racism of ALL types. Certainly, many will not even acknowledge Black Racism, but it is as prevalent as White Racism.

I was raised to see without eyes, and to learn something for every person I meet, even if it is how NOT to behave. Of course some posting here wont understand this but someday they will!

I notice that much of what you post is not received as I thought you meant it, but I think people bring to this message board what their life experiences, or what they were taught .

Also, I can see the fighter in your comments now! LoL! I mean that in a nice way too!

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NomoreCrap

Jul-22-13 3:38 PM

Thank you RobinJ that is the type of conversation I believe Americans need to have. Something serious, intellectual and un-antagonistic.

Would you believe after my disclaimer I was still blamed for those thoughts being mine?

Much of what I write is never well received because it's easier to shoot the messenger or pretend the elephant is not in the room. Many folks on this site are extremely opposed and uncomfortable with subjects dealing with race.

Of course these same folks are just fine poking fun at the black thug or accusing an entire racial group of being hood-rats, etc.... but have no idea or intellect to actually dialog to educate each other. In order to maintain the status quo they have to deny a thinking person like me exists in the black community.

I often believe I expect too much from mere humans, many of whom prefer idiocy to intelligence...

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Igot2cents

Jul-22-13 2:16 PM

that's the best resolution this newspaper can afford for that picture?

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Billdog

Jul-22-13 11:48 AM

Time to bust a cra ckheads, head.

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RobinJ

Jul-22-13 10:10 AM

NMC: Interesting posts, Thanks! I was equally pleased for your repeated clarification of NOT being your views.

Your posts were insightful and appreciated! I was hoping they would have been better received. Some comments reinforce that if a person wants to see a perceived skin color first they easily will succeed!

Thanks again!

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Doris

Jul-22-13 10:05 AM

Are drugs a problem in the City of Warren??? Of course; they are. They will always continue to be a big problem so that police can continue to have their jobs. It is just one great big circle; that keeps getting bigger no matter what is being done about it~~~Thank You.

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ohcwby

Jul-22-13 12:31 AM

It is what it is...Why Lie! Geez

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ohcwby

Jul-22-13 12:28 AM

NomoreCrap is absolutely 100% correct! And here's my proof.

CommonSense

Jul-21-13 10:34 AM Agree | Disagree

"Poverty" is the excuse that certain races like to use to justify their criminal behavior. "certain races" being the operative words here. Such denial. ****

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msmith82

Jul-21-13 9:44 PM

2fishingfools it was not me I am wondering who disagreed with me about the tribune doing a positive story about two kids doing something good in the city of warren

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2fishinfools

Jul-21-13 9:39 PM

Really, who disagrees with that? Those were simple facts. Please explain.

Unless it's just msmith again.

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2fishinfools

Jul-21-13 9:18 PM

It appears this particular "Clean Sweep" netted both white and black, men and women and of varied ages. Most were from the city, though two were from Cortland, one was from Bristol and one was from Brookfield.

While I understand discussing the discrepancies in race and background in relation to crime...it really doesn't apply to this story.

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msmith82

Jul-21-13 9:05 PM

Its sad that the tribune will post a story like this but not post a story about two kids on Belmont st having a lemonade stand to raise money to buy their school supplies and school cloths. The mayor was the only one of the city officials to show up and he showed up last weekend to. This mom is trying to teach her kids the value of hard work and the tribune turns a blind eye to the good she is teaching her kids. I bet you if her kids were doing something bad the tribune would be all over that story like white on rice. Shame on the tribune for not doing a story on someone doing something positive in the city of warren.

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paulydel

Jul-21-13 4:59 PM

They need to keep the pressure on these guys. Drugs has no race. Its whoever decides to get into the business for the money. Those who put race into it are the racists.

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DrPhilDrone

Jul-21-13 4:21 PM

Good question jtoday since we never hear from him anything about the whites who do the same things he complains about blacks.

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LilPookie

Jul-21-13 4:04 PM

If I asked the klansmen why he feel superior to other races and they tell me then I come back to tell you is that my point of view cleanup? Why is it impossible to believe a man can ask people what they feel then tell you without them feeling that way theyself? News reporters do it every day!

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LilPookie

Jul-21-13 3:58 PM

Good question jtoday! @cleanup.....Do you believe we are all stupid cleanup? Who do you really believe commonsense was talking about with "certain races"? Answer that!!! Dont insult our intelligence to make NMC the one who brought up race.

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ArticWoof

Jul-21-13 2:21 PM

Crap, then again, I can not type....LOL LOL Darn typos.

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ArticWoof

Jul-21-13 2:20 PM

See how politiclly correct we have become,,,I an not even type red.necks

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ArticWoof

Jul-21-13 2:19 PM

MoreRealTalk, you are correct. My bad. commonsense was the first. BUT, it was WP comment that nomore elaborated on. Again, I am not syaing nomore is wrong. Simply saying, poverty and the supposed excuse is breeds crime and drugs, well, it goes to ALL people. Think about it. Are all whites prefect? No. Are all blacks bad? No. Reverse the question, you get the same answer. Heck, are all motorcycle riders Hecks Angels?. No. Are all NASCAR fans ********? No. You can pick out almost ANY group of people and find slurs, insults and yes, even discrimination.

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DrPhilDrone

Jul-21-13 1:06 PM

As always you leave thought provoking well written messages NMC, I do get and even agree with your logic here. But you're in the wrong place and around the wrong class. You want to dialog on an intellectual level and as you will see the intellectualism is not here. Good comment Articwoof and you are totally there but most of the posters here belong in a zoo. Say your piece and leave bro serious discussions won't happen!

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tomelli

Jul-21-13 12:53 PM

Very good point neversummer, city officials are robbing tax payers without a gun!

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Tichunglow

Jul-21-13 12:49 PM

Is this dimwit about to spend another entire day with this? Check please!

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MoreRealTalk

Jul-21-13 12:45 PM

If you read the comment by commonsense who was the first to bring up race, you'll get why NMC went where he did. And a very good explanation at that!

Looks like the race haters are out already, no cleanupwarren it was commonsense at 10:34am who "put the race card out there". Read it again!

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ArticWoof

Jul-21-13 12:16 PM

Nomorecrap, I can see your point. And could agree to a lot of what you said. BUT, until your comment, WP, the bear, nor I, mentioned race. Poverty is an across the board problem. Not a race issue. I see your point, I do. But with all due respect, many whites have experianced the " white trash " profile and life experiances. I think what you explained, very well, cold be used as a wider reaching comment my friend.

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NomoreCrap

Jul-21-13 11:39 AM

This pattern persists when some whites fail to reward decency with decency. This causes black youth to see no matter how decent, friendly & law abiding I am, as a black man they will still call you niqqer, follow you in stores, deny you opportunities and think of you as a thug or hoodlum.

In some ways whites cause a self fulfilling prophesy by judging all black folks alike. Many blacks never get a chance to experience being treated equally for being decent human beings, they see themselves being treated poorly no matter how God fearing, law abiding & decent the are.

So their children see this and figure what's the use? We'll never get recognized or respected for our good deeds, my hard working parents got treated like dirt, I want my good life like YOU have and you OWE ME.

That is the rationale, black folks feel free to correct me if I am wrong! Whites can't correct me since you have no idea what goes on in our minds, hearts or households...

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