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Thu. 11:30 a.m.: Cardinal Mooney under investigation

June 13, 2013

Cardinal Mooney High School is currently being investigated for recruiting violations by the Ohio High School Athletic Association, director of communication Tim Stried informed the Tribune Chronicl......

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msmith82

Jun-13-13 11:47 AM

There is a shock a Catholic school being investigated for violations

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ChinChin

Jun-13-13 11:52 AM

"We don't recruit" This has been going on for decades. Put all of them in their own divisions and let them stay there.

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dstabt

Jun-13-13 12:05 PM

They are guilty as charged. I personally know someone who's daughter was being recruited by Mooney and wanted her to go to their school to play a particular sport and they were told that if finances were an issue tuition would be taken care of. Same thing happens at other private schools. I personally know, and they no longer use the word recruiting for this practice, usually called "sponsoring, and or scholarshiped.

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ndirish

Jun-13-13 12:53 PM

It goes on in public schools also. How do you think Maurice Clarett ended up at Harding?

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DefeatSBB5

Jun-13-13 12:54 PM

You mean all those winning seasons were not the result of brilliant coaching, or well-designed athletic programs, or divine intervention on behalf of the morally superior?

I'm totally shocked!

(not)

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RAB5066

Jun-13-13 1:28 PM

All you Catholic Bashers need to pray more.

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msmith82

Jun-13-13 1:45 PM

Ndrish at least harding is a division one school and are the playing against division one schools. Unlike the two Catholic schools in Youngstown

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Doris

Jun-13-13 2:14 PM

Pray on Saturday and party after the prayer for forgiveness that is how it goes everywhere. The difference is that this school just got caught~~~oops!!!

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computerwhiz

Jun-13-13 2:38 PM

ok I give up whats the penalty reducing scholarships LOL

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thebear402

Jun-13-13 2:39 PM

NDIrish, not the case. Clarett--who I'm pulling for to turn his life around and be a success in whatever field he chooses, by the way--was shopped around by an adult male relative. I know that they walked into the Ursuline coach's office, when MC was a freshman, and said he would attend there under certain circumstances, including immediately starting and no tuition. The coach said get out.

Back to the subject. I cannot defend what allegedly happened, if it did happen. The coach must know the rules, period.

Third, don't say, "everyone does it, including public schools via open enrollment." True, but no defense. "Everyone does it." Would you take that excuse from your kids?

Finally, to all, don't paint all parochial schools with the same brush. I'm a JFK fan, and if the Eagles recruited, as those of you who say, "ALL Catholic schools recruit," then why haven't we had a good team in the past 4 years?

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msmith82

Jun-13-13 2:47 PM

Thebear402 I know of a couple of kids who went to JFK and they were not recurited though they went to jfk because harding couldn't give them playing time

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touchdown

Jun-13-13 2:47 PM

Just the other day, the Trib ran a story of how a Harding football player, who moved here from outside Chicago, was so surprised how huge high school football is here. The title read something about what a great thing that was. Then you read a story about 8th graders being recruited. So no, maybe our worship of high school football is not such a good thing. Maybe we should let the kids be kids and not treat them like NFL superstars, being recruited, being dined, etc.

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thebear402

Jun-13-13 2:49 PM

msmith, same as in basketball. We'd get a number of young men from Harding who could not get playing time, they'd transfer to JFK and start, then immediately after the season, go back to Harding, owing tuition that was never paid. (not really sure what that has to do with the story, but...)

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msmith82

Jun-13-13 2:56 PM

Touchdown high school football gives young men a father figure that they might not have at home I am okay with sports being in our schools. BTW bear Maurice has turned his life around I am friends with him on twitter and facebook

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msmith82

Jun-13-13 2:58 PM

Not all Catholic schools recruit players

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dstabt

Jun-13-13 3:30 PM

TheBear the head football coach at JFK lives in Niles and the influx from the Niles public schools kids into the JFK system is a well known fact. The football team DID win their division this year and you obviously don't pay attention to what is going on with the boys and girls track team and all the state championships this past season, in track, golf and soccer. as well as representing in state playoffs in tennis etc. Some fan! Huh?

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horatio

Jun-13-13 4:31 PM

Those whacky Catholics! It's always something with them,hahahah!They better look at ST.Ignatius,ST.ED's,and the list goes on and on.Year after year these schools dominate the Playoffs,yet we are supposed to believe that this type of thing doesn't happen.Time to end the "nod nod,wink wink" and bring this into the light.The Catholics don't exactly have a stellar record when it comes to pubescent boys.

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Citizen1

Jun-13-13 5:06 PM

As if we didn't know this was occurring. This is why Catholic schools and public schools need to have their own state tournaments. They have an unfair advantage when it comes to being allowed to recruit. I am surprised Mooney was punished. Didn't they use the typical "we weren't recruiting these kids for football, we were recruiting them because they would make fine catholic students" excuse?

I am fine with them recruiting actually. If a kids athletic talents can get him an education at a quality private school, free of charge, why not? But lets not pretend the public and private schools are on a level playing ground.

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ItIsntEasyBeingFree

Jun-13-13 5:08 PM

All you crybabies don't see it! It's called private sector! Better education and alumni funding to provide academic scholarships to students who excel in academia and sports!

To bad the public school model falls flat time and time again! To many schools supported by big bloated government!

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msmith82

Jun-13-13 5:26 PM

Itisnteasy it is against the Ohio high school athlitic policy to pay the players to play for them and if that turns out to be the case I hope they get banned because they knew better

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ItIsntEasyBeingFree

Jun-13-13 7:48 PM

Nobody's paying players!

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Lucky777

Jun-13-13 7:53 PM

@itisnteasy,then let them stay private and play each other.That would be the PRIVATE thing to do.They should not want to associate with the failed public school athletes.

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msmith82

Jun-13-13 8:00 PM

Itisnteasy so labron James just was able to magically afford his hummer when he was living in the projects in Akron

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ItIsntEasyBeingFree

Jun-13-13 8:16 PM

Itisnteasy so labron James just was able to magically afford his hummer when he was living in the projects in Akron

That's how dumb you are GrannySmith! SVSM didn't buy Lebron a Hummer!

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ItIsntEasyBeingFree

Jun-13-13 8:18 PM

@itisnteasy,then let them stay private and play each other.That would be the PRIVATE thing to do.They should not want to associate with the failed public school athletes.

You don't want your kids to play best competition available regardless of schools?

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