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Don’t blame boards, superintendents

May 5, 2013

DEAR EDITOR: Charter schools and vouchers take money from public school districts. Almost $800 million in state funding went to charter schools last year....

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FamilyGuy

May-14-13 4:17 PM

Yup sb5.

Either EARN the business or learn to do with less.

Parents do have choices and they can, and will, take their business (and the money) elsewhere.

You have been warned.

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DefeatSBB5

May-11-13 3:22 PM

So FamGuy has come up with a new public service system -- tax-supported public service employees and the entities they work for must "earn" the "business" of the public they serve -- carrying the twisted logic of the market place to an absurd degree.

Come on, FamGuy!

Public schools were created precisely to eliminate the abuses of the for-profit market-place!

"Earn the business?"

Try not getting carried away with your worship of the catitalistic model.

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FamilyGuy

May-11-13 12:17 PM

Charter schools would not be an issue if parents were satisfied with the education, the content, and the learning environment that public schools were providing.

As charter school enrolment grows, this can only be interpreted as a growing vote of no confidence in the services provided by public schools.

You must earn the business.

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Rezistanceisfutile

May-08-13 9:43 PM

Another pig bellies up to the trough and these union hogs get their panties in a bunch cuz they cant have an all you can eat at the taxpayer buffet. Howd that newton falls levy do???? Epic fail.

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Rezistanceisfutile

May-08-13 9:41 PM

You mean they take money from public school teachers benefits ed. Thats what you really care about. Im sure you wont lose your newly built home on eagle creek so quit whining. You only care about you.

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chemicalbrother3

May-08-13 7:35 AM

charter schools are not meant for every student.

one local charter school has a maximum 18:2 ratio (yes, that means one licensed teacher AND a license intervention specialist in every classroom) and focuses on students on the autism spectrum (adhd, asperger's, autism) and is growing yearly.

there must be some parents in warren that think it is a better alternative for their students than the public schools.

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msmith82

May-07-13 4:08 PM

My niece went to a charter school for two years then went back to public shcools she was so far behind it was not funny. I think of charter schools are going to be here as an alternative then they should have to meet the same testing standards of the public schools.

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DefeatSBB5

May-07-13 11:23 AM

". . . the school employees and their cheap healthcare and over generous pensions which are now out of step with what everyone else receives today in the private sector."

Everyone else -- who?

Where are these masses of master's degreed professionals that educators are "out of step" with?

Engineers? Hedge fund managers? Skilled tradesmen?

You should learn to compare apples to apples.

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DefeatSBB5

May-07-13 11:17 AM

Oh what a lot of bunk!

Kids do not fail because the public schools are bad!

Those same schools graduate top- notch students, and send them off to top-notch colleges, where they get top-notch educations preparing them for top-notch careers.

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ViennaResident

May-07-13 8:27 AM

With 56% of 3rd graders in Warren City Schools failing their state testing, why would any loving parent send their child to those schools? This is why the charter schools are surviving. City schools need to look in a mirror before asking why students are leaving.

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DefeatSBB5

May-07-13 8:12 AM

You sent your kids to public schools, Gary, as much as you hate to admit it (because your agenda is clearly to bash all things public).

How'd that work out for ya?

I sent mine to public schools, which are clearly superior to either the private (parochial) or charter schools in this are, in terms of support services, extra-curriculars, and depth/breadth of the curriculum.

You should run for the school board of your local school -- you could channel some of the angry energy into making the system better, instead of just sitting on the sidelines and taking potshots at all the people and things you resent.

Just a thought . . .

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ItIsntEasyBeingFree

May-06-13 6:44 PM

So who do we blame for the exodus of children from public schools? Why leave?

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jonathon

May-06-13 7:23 AM

Once again I would ask that parents of children in these Charter schools in question come forward and post on this site WHY you choose to send your child to a charter school vs a public school, I think it's time for more of you to speak up as to your reasoning, your replies may just wake up some folks who really have NO idea what's really going on in the educational field today.

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liemonger

May-06-13 1:28 AM

There is no reasoning with the jealous and envious.

“O, beware . . . of jealousy!/ It is the green-ey'd monster which doth mock/ The meat it feeds on."

She's speaking from experience.

She loves the meat.

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CommonSense

May-05-13 10:55 PM

If government (public) schools were not such a resounding failure, this wouldn't be an issue.

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SURV69

May-05-13 8:09 PM

Since when is it the school board's money?

Sure it goes to the school board...BUT it's money that really belongs to the education of the individual children.

If the charter schools are taking too much money out of the school board's budgets, then improve the schooling and educational environment in the schools.

GUESS WHAT?

If the school boards were to clean up their acts, the education became generally better and more pertinent and if the environment was improved, the need to send Johnny to a charter school would diminish and all that money would come back to the school boards.

But no . . . the whining little ^#%$#%^ would rather use this as another excuse for all their educational shortcomings.

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DefeatSBB5

May-05-13 4:44 PM

There is no reasoning with the jealous and envious.

“O, beware . . . of jealousy!/ It is the green-ey'd monster which doth mock/ The meat it feeds on."

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Senator1218

May-05-13 2:00 PM

WP--what planet are you on??? The 3% automatic increase has been TAKEN AWAY. So Long has you pegged right!

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XWarren

May-05-13 10:42 AM

Warrenproud,

Teachers don't get SS. Their pensions are the only retirement they get. They also need to pay for Medicare. The COLA raise that they get is going away over the next couple of years. Their supplemental insurance is also getting hit pretty bad and getting more expensive every year.

The pension and benefits hits are a direct result of THEIR UNION investing a large amount of the retirement funds in ENRON the day before it went belly up.

Of course, somebody got very rich and no one in THE UNION was ever prosecuted or went to jail.

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WarrenProud

May-05-13 9:46 AM

solong - okay lets give them Medicare which starts at 65 and take away the automatic 3% pension yearly increase which is way more generous then Social Security or the inflation increases of late. Let them pay for their full insurance until they reach 65 like other private sector employees have to do. Why should they get more then the people who pay for the school employees pay and benefits? You know not of what you write.

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NewtonFallsHowland

May-05-13 8:45 AM

People send their kids to charter schools because they are less ghetto. They don't want their kids getting beat up and harassed by the other kids.

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countyresident

May-05-13 8:04 AM

The funding issue has been around long before Kasich was elected. Past Governors also ignored it.

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solong

May-05-13 7:40 AM

You hit it right on the nose Ed. WarrenProud does not have a clue. Go to check all schools and get your facts before shooting your mouth. Go talk to many who have retired and get your facts before shooting off your mouth again. It's not all fantastic like you and many others believe it is. Do you get Social Security?? If these people lose their health insurance after they retire they are screwed. It can be pulled tomorrow. Go find out what they have to pay for their insurance when they retire and for their spouse if needed. Yeah loudmouth, you think you know everything when in fact you know NOTHING.

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WarrenProud

May-05-13 5:20 AM

Let's put the blame squarely where it belongs - on the shoulders of the school employees and their cheap healthcare and over generous pensions which are now out of step with what everyone else receives today in the private sector.

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