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Let’s be fair, WGH, others need to be in the AAC

February 11, 2013

It’S now in the hands of the principals and superintendents. The All-American Conference went to the two-tier system two years ago, going to American and National Divisions within the conference....

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rgadzina

Mar-24-13 3:21 PM

Fatty, maybe you should take your accusations to the OHSAA, not a message board?

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FattyArbuckle

Mar-12-13 6:37 PM

Mr Touchdown, you obviously are in denial. Mooney & Ursuline are terrible. Lets add Lakewood St Edwards, Walsh Jesuit, St Vincent St Marys,St Elder, St Xavier, Toledo Central Catholic. How about the other private schools, Hathaway Brown, CVCA. You are a hypocrite.These athletes get free tuition for sports. Financial Advantage. Boardman is not open enrollment. Get your facts correct. Ismail Kitchen did not pay 1 penney to play football at Mooney neither Darrell Koulianos, how about Courtney Love, Braylon Heard? Same thing and how about all those other inner city kids from Youngstown, Cleveland, Toledo, Akron, Columbus and Cincinnati who get free tuition of thousands of dollars for free hardly because the boosters want to give a poor inner city child a catholic education, it's because they want to them to play sports. TD you are in complete denial & hypocrite. Why don't you people clean up the sexual abuses to children from Rome to Warren. The Truth hurts you Hypocritical Imbeci

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touchdown

Feb-14-13 9:34 AM

One last comment to my biased fellow poster, Mr Arbuckle: So parochial schools have a "financial advantage" because those players recruited to play for them don't have to pay one penny of tuition, huh? What a moronic statement! First, some boosters are willing to pick up the cost of some of the tuition for these kids. The school has nothing to do with it. Again, it's the boosters. And second, please tell me exactly how much tuition a kid from Youngstown city must pay when he enrolls in Liberty under open enrollment?? Not a penny, under ANY circumstances. So please tell me where the big "financial advantage" is?

Here's something else for you to actually research, vs spouting off your anti-Catholic diatribes: A number of WGH 2nd team basketball players transfer to JFK because they know they'll start there and hope to get a college scholarship offer. IMMEDIATELY after basketball season, most go back to WGH because their families stop paying JFK's tuition. So much fo

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touchdown

Feb-14-13 9:27 AM

And FattyArbuckle, using Poland and Canfield as an example, are they going to stop playing Boardman? Boardman has open enrollment. Boardman boosters recruit. Of course, it's a lot easier to throw rocks at the Catholic schools, they don't throw back.

I'm waiting to hear your rant on Boardman, Liberty, Howland, and all the other public schools with open enrollment. No, I don't think it will happen. Go ahead and say it, "Don't bother me with facts, the only fact I know is that I hate Catholic schools."

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touchdown

Feb-14-13 9:23 AM

FattyArbuckle, before you have a stroke, sit down and re-read the article. The author said that the concept of these local public schools excluding parochial schools from their leagues due to recruiting is outdated--NOT because the parochial schools don't recruit, but because the public schools now have open enrollment.

Do the parochial schools recruit? Speaking only for JFK, the answer is no, and before you have another coronary, understand that the school itself is not recruiting, the boosters are. SAME AS PUBLIC SCHOOLS WITH OPEN ENROLLMENT. All those Youngstown city kids playing basketball for Liberty didn't get there of their own accord or due to the LHS coach contacting them. Boosters do all that.

It's sad, really, it makes me think of the Alabama fan who killed those 500 year old trees on the Auburn campus. Sports should be for kids, it should not be for middle-aged men to re-live their fantasy lives by recruiting for "their" teams, hassling opponents, etc.

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FattyArbuckle

Feb-13-13 4:32 PM

Harding Fitch Boardman East should be paired with Howland Hubbard Canfield and Poland. Those 8 teams locally would generate attendance, rivalries and strong competition in all sports. That would give 7 game conference scheduling and 3 open dates of their choosing for football. 14 Games for Basketball. Baseball, Track, Soccer, Swimming and wrestling for those schools who have it.

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FattyArbuckle

Feb-13-13 4:25 PM

Several years back Poland took a stand and Stopped Playing Mooney in sports because they recruit their students. Poland does not have open enrollment.

Recently Canfield took a stand and stopped playing Mooney in all sports because they have recruited Canfield students, No Open Enrollment In Canfield either.

What Mooney & Ursuline Sows, is what Mooney & Ursuline will Reap. The chickens are coming home to roost now and it looks like their cheating and unfair advantages will separate them and their ability to play against local schools. It's there own fault. Until the OHSAA take care of this very problematic issue schools will continue to isolate this schools to the point where no one will want to schedule any of them anymore.

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FattyArbuckle

Feb-13-13 4:14 PM

John Vargo; I have had Family members recruited to play football away from their Public Schools. The coach and AD told my Family that there son would not have to pay 1 penny to attend the Parochial School which they could not afford to pay. They would pick her son up everyday and drive him 30 minutes one way everyday all year round until he graduated. They would not have to purchase any tickets home or away to watch their son. They would provide a ride to and from every game home and away. They would pay for the required school uniform. Just let him come to the Parochial school and play football and she would have no worries.

That John Vargo is NOT OUTDATED That is Unfair and Cheating. Ask Chris Anzevino's father about his son being recruited by Bucci/Fecko and then Reardon. The Dad was shocked at what they were offered. Their is a lot of money that is passed for these kids to play at these Private schools and that's UNACCEPTABLE. Get your head out of the Sand Mr Vargo.

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FattyArbuckle

Feb-13-13 4:03 PM

The Private schools recruiting like Mooney & Ursuline is NOT OUTDATED! They have a Financial Advantage because these recruits do not pay tuition to play football at those Parochial schools. If they pay the thousands of dollars to attend without anyone helping pick up the Tab then yes let them play. If they keep getting all these area players from other schools that play for FREE than that is a UNFAIR Advantage. Money is involved here. "Two WRONGS do not make one Right..."

Stop the issue of free vouchers paying for Parochial schools and paid tuition to parochial schools and financial aid to Parochial Schools and scholarships to Parochial schools and all this mess will take care of it's self. These players have to pay their own way if they want to leave the public school and then play for a Private School. That is the Bottom Line Period!!!!

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righton

Feb-13-13 2:33 PM

This league could be one of the strongest all around conferences in State by including all schools.. In this day of inclusion. It would also be a nice touch for the Mahoning Valley It takes Leadership to make the Conference NO 1.

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YtownSports

Feb-12-13 10:34 AM

Out-of-the-box thinking. Not a strong suit for local schools. However, the problem of partial membership for schools like Fitch and Harding is solved if the plan to group them with Boardman, East, Mooney, & Ursuline can be put together. I'm not sure East would go for that and I can't say I blame them where football is concerned. However, I'm having a hard time believing enough schools will welcome those larger newcomers even if those schools are "isolated" in their own division.

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