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Brine-dumping reports came in repeatedly

Company seeks ODNR hearing

February 8, 2013

YOUNGSTOWN — Anonymous complaints of illegal dumping on Salt Springs Road had come in repeatedly throughout January until state inspectors finally caught one in the act on Jan....

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sammyd1949

Feb-09-13 3:01 PM

This garbage is happening all over the Mahoning Valley. If the EPA would wake up and do the job its supposed to do, a lot of other scumsucking dirtbags would be shut down.

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nmcLone

Feb-09-13 7:21 AM

they be frackin all us hard & truthmonger be getting frack even harder .lm ao w 3eye kids , but that days be comin

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oldman00

Feb-08-13 11:44 PM

All these types of companies have been doing this for a long time.These idiots just got so bold they got caught.The owner will pay his fine and business as usual from there on.He will instruct his drivers to dump it at night in a remote area.

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jonathon

Feb-08-13 4:53 PM

Feather, Ohioans have to be able to pass a background AND a DRUG TEST to obtain gainful employment, many can't seem to meet that criteria!

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reader

Feb-08-13 4:22 PM

Do we really wonder why so many children are being born with problems? So many people with no sense or sensibilities? Someone was correct on here when they said you cant boil these chemicals out of the water.

I have seen trucks in wooded areas that dont even go back to the plant to dump this stuff. They just pull up and dump it on the roads or on the ground. Has to be some way to control how this is handled.

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ndirish

Feb-08-13 3:57 PM

No Jail Time, Don't waste my tax dollars on that. Don't fine them, Just put them all to death!!!

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truthmonger

Feb-08-13 3:32 PM

Again, I personally have seen brine tanker trucks pull up to the banks of the Mahoning River in the brownfields near the V&M plants and spill their toxic crap into the river.

They can pay their bills better by skipping EPA regulations that the conservatives don't believe in anyhow.

Everybody loses except the oil/gas companies and the brine haulers they pass the buck to...Just picture the native American with the tear running down his cheek.

We've strayed a long way America. Now we openly mock and ridicule caring for God's creation in the mainstream. There will be*****to pay for it.

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truthmonger

Feb-08-13 3:26 PM

brasco, I was pretending to be one of these anti-environmentists, or government-hating lunatics.

Honestly, these Shale Play cheerleaders make no sense whatsoever when they say it's 100% safe.

If it was 100% safe, why the frack are fracking fluids (and some methods) "top secret" and confidential in all of the local land lease agreements and contracts? And why did gas/oil companies very deliberately request and receive a free pass on the Clean Water Act? If it was 100% safe there would be no need for a fracking exclusion from the strongest federal laws protecting our water, now would there be?

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GlendaG

Feb-08-13 2:10 PM

This company has had no regard to the enviroment since the first paycheck came in. I bet this has been going on for longer than anyone is admitting. We have the epa down our throats about septic systems and we have a idiot dumping poison in our rivers. Wonder who turned the other way. What I don't understand is how they got away with this for as long as they have. Do they have proof of where all the waste has gone from the beginning or are we not even going to investigate to see what records they have. Are we giving them enough time to falsify their records like CSB did and then even after they get caught do nothing about it. This is a serious crime and no one even arrested after admitting they intentionally broke the law. The law is to protect people yet not one person is in jail.

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Zenieth

Feb-08-13 2:05 PM

It's NOT rocket science to know that if it's too good to be true it most likely isn't. Cheating, lying, stealing is just a way of life for some individuals. We will never be with out dishonest people in life. Blame it on whatever reason make you comfortable. When playing roulette the chances are you will one day loose.

LilPukie - I take back my claim as I'm sure there's one or two whom is qualified. If that made you NOT be a believer then your an obvious "push over" with very poor judgement. It's all good however, we still have a contamination issue regardless ......

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brasco

Feb-08-13 1:26 PM

Truth, don't think so, just some business owner cheating to make a buck the GOP way..you really don't have a clue do you you fricking idiot.

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brasco

Feb-08-13 1:23 PM

What are you thanking Obama for pahootaman...don't get it..

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RolloTomassi

Feb-08-13 1:21 PM

Here's the biggest problem:

Beer brewers are joining forces to fight fracking!

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LilPookie

Feb-08-13 12:45 PM

How could anyone say with any amount of certainty that there is nobody in the entire State of Ohio with qualified gas well drilling experience? You'd have to know the qualifications of each person in that industry to truthfully make that claim. I was nearly I believer until I read that, it's like saying nobody in Ohio can swim the English Channel without knowing the swim capacity of each citizen. It's not true dude.......

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Citizen1

Feb-08-13 12:43 PM

I stopped drinking tap water a couple years ago. I recommend using distilled or purified water for drinking... Even when you make coffee and tea. You can't boil these chemicals out.

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truthmonger

Feb-08-13 12:41 PM

Get these tree-hugging liberals out the way of free enterprise and let Ohio's progress roll baby! It's 100% safe. Zero percent risk or possible hazards involved!

So cry about some frogs and fish gettin' dead, who gives a rat's patootey? Shale Play is resurrecting this VALLEY'S ECONOMY!

60 years of drilling and fracking has been 100% safe and there has never been any evidence to the contrary. These lily-livered tree-hugging, anti-progress, stinking-pinko-commie rat-bastards trying to ruin the only hope this valley will ever have ever again!

Some commie liberals paid this guy to dump oil and brine in the creeks just to give fracking a bad name.

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Zenieth

Feb-08-13 12:10 PM

I've seen the aftermath of polluted flammable drinking water in Arkansas and the illnesses created by a contaminated water supply. It is nothing short of being devastating to ALL life. I certainly hope that NOW we get much needed help from the anti fracking groups that have been protesting in PA & NY. This is a serious problem going forward and something MUST be done.

As for all of the out of state workers. Ohio doesn't have any qualified, experienced gas well drillers. We also have very few that are capable of providing the services that go along with the drilling. Look at what this BOZO did ......... Texas and Oklahoma have been drilling for gas and oil for many years.The drilling game has changed dramatically over the years and it's even more deadly today than it was in the day at Titusville. I'm sure a lot of people will disagree too. At the end of the day whether you agree or not, we still have polluted our water supply ........

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Triumph

Feb-08-13 11:34 AM

I think all we can really do is sit back and wait for our granchildren to be born with 3 eyeballs and a tail.

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Zenieth

Feb-08-13 11:33 AM

We had a little time before the methane got into the water supply and caused issues. We went strait to contamination with out any warning ......

Tomorrow we'll have a story of this being an isolated event and that fracking is still safe, in the right hands and if done properly. Even those property owners that got $$$ and stood up for the cause should be ashamed today for what has happened here .......... SICKENING

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featherstone

Feb-08-13 11:18 AM

And a note on local jobs, notice an abundance of out of state plates in the area like TEXAS, OKLAHOMA?? WHY aren't more Ohioans being hired, our wonderful governor even questioned this. Bottom line, All the jobs and money(most of it going to companies) in the world don't mean Squat if our water and soil is poisoned.

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featherstone

Feb-08-13 11:12 AM

There haven't been any earthquakes since the closing of the drill site in weathersfield! Gee, although Company claimed there was connection. There already has been several examples of irresponsibility in regards to drilling. All for it if its done safely, WHICH INCLUDES WORKERSand provided these companies don't CRAP in our back yard and leave.

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Zenieth

Feb-08-13 11:10 AM

Deep pockets are in control of the entire ordeal. If you had one complaint you should have honed in on the situation. No, they wait all month until numerous complaints come in. This is a serious problem with how the state responds to the deadly crime of contaminating our water supply. Again, big money and deep pockets pretty much rule the whole picture ............. and it's only just begun. Too bad we aren't in a win, win situation going forward.

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Billdog

Feb-08-13 11:02 AM

Zippy's so melodramatic.

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countyresident

Feb-08-13 11:01 AM

Does not matter to me or should it to authorities. 2,000 gallons or 2 gallons. It is a crime to dump that waste where they dumped it. Prosecute them in "Criminal" court and if found guilty , give them the maximum sentence.

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zipcityboy

Feb-08-13 10:22 AM

D&L and its criminal CEO caused several earthquakes which terrorized our community a year or so ago, and no criminal charges were filed against these criminals. Now we learn that the same set of greedy polluters has been dumping tens of thousands of gallons on toxic waste into our fresh water supplies, and still no criminal charges are brought against these environmental terrorists. Several Amish men face life in prison for cutting hair without permission, but these corporate criminals get away with murder (of our part of mother earth and the deaths to come from their criminal pollution). This is justice?

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