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The real truth about fracking

February 3, 2013

DEAR EDITOR: Even as Americans crave energy independence, Hollywood has once again joined ideological forces with environmental leftists and foreign exporters of oil to ensure the U.S....

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truthmonger

Feb-11-13 9:47 AM

"environmentalist" section (sorry)

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truthmonger

Feb-11-13 9:46 AM

In a balanced free press, American newspaper readers would read George Will's column's no more frequently than say, Noam Chompsky's views.

It would be food for the mind, instead of daily propaganda.

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truthmonger

Feb-11-13 9:42 AM

Also, don't get me wrong, I don't want an all liberal press; but I definitely believe America would benefit from a balanced press, where environmental groups' views were taken as seriously and printed as frequently in the Tribune as pro-fracking interests. There's a "Shale Play" section in our local paper, but where is the "Environmentist" section.

Cancer rates are higher here than elsewhere. Since the heatlh of the people and our clean water tables under our soil belong to all residents of Trumbull county present and future, our press should protect our common interests more than corporate intersts.

But for $hort term gain$, giant corporation$ waltz into to town on law$ that grant them a free p*** to take what they want with very little respon$ibility what$oever.

What legal recourse does a landowner have if BP ruins their water table? From what I have heard--none.

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truthmonger

Feb-11-13 9:31 AM

responsibility (whoops)

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truthmonger

Feb-11-13 9:30 AM

bear-

stronger enforcement and stronger laws mandating corporate responsability. Start by rescinding the (halliburton) loophole granting gas/oil frackers a free pass on the federal Clean Water Act.

If fracking is 100% safe, koolaid alert, why did industry leaders seek and receive a legal waiver on The Clean Water Act? You won't hear this in "the liberal media" because "liberal media" is a myth.

The media serves "the power elite" first. They make it look good, with liberal slant on selected domestic issues; gays and abortion. But the media is owned by corporate interests and rarely serves or protects the will of the people as it was intended by our constitution.

Ironically, if you love our constitution, you should support a more liberal press, not the "free market" agenda for consolidating money and power. Tea Party groups claim to love our constitution but work mostly to enforce pro-power elite views across the board in our society.

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thebear402

Feb-09-13 7:56 AM

Cathy, that was a well written and well thought out article, thank you for posting it. I agree with you, but I'd like to add one thing: The rules and regs governing fracking safety only work if they are followed. Look at this criminal on Salt Springs Rd. He knew what he was doing, but went ahead and broke the law and dumped his brine. Maybe stronger enforcement is the answer.

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liemonger

Feb-08-13 9:18 PM

Nah, we should exchange names or you should just go by "GULLIBLE" since you buy into every libtard lie sold to you.

Douchemonger is probably more appropriate for you.

"I said, "Global Warming is too complicated...""

In this thread you did.

Last time you DENIED that you were an advocate for rainbows and unicorn farms.

Make up your mind.

Ohh... that's right someone will have to do that for you also.

"It's sad that we can't change."

Take that and shove it where the solar panels you DON'T OWN because nanny government hasn't given them to you.

You know. Right up there with your overlord dope's hope.

Bot on, BOT.

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truthmonger

Feb-08-13 3:51 PM

Liemonger is a good name for you, because you love lying.

I said, "Global Warming is too complicated..." I didn't say we should or shouldn't debate it. Honestly, I don't think anyone on earth has a full grasp of Global Warming and that's why the conservatives love the debate ad naseum. It's a distraction from the REALITY that humans are causing environmental catastrophe far and near. This much is 99% certain.

Global Warming may not be certain, but 90% of scientists with advanced degrees in climate science agree human activities affect climate change. There are 1 billion cars driving every day. Imagine all the factories and just the blacktop absorbing sunlight...

Even if Global warming is/was an elaborate hoax involving thousands of scientists, which it is not, the fact remains that humans have initiated the next mass extinction, unless we make major changes soon we'll eventually hit a critical point and bring the whole system down.

It's sad that we can't change.

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liemonger

Feb-08-13 7:41 AM

LOL.

She back on her global warming kick.

Geee.. wasn't that long ago she was denying to have ever been on one.

Now, what your lie, libturd?

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liemonger

Feb-08-13 7:39 AM

Ahhh... look. It's the faithful liberal, douchemonger, spewing her propaganda.

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WATERMAN

Feb-06-13 12:44 PM

As general comments, the brine in the sewer/river was diliberate by a dumb ass contractor trying to cut corners. He should be fined and prohibited from doing business. Secondly, the writer is correct about extinction but it is not entirely man made. Go back to the dinasours, man did not destroy them, Mother Nature/earth cycle did. And yes there was global warming back then too. Al Gore wasn't alive to tell you it was happening. However, if you believe Al Gore you will believe anyone.

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truthmonger

Feb-06-13 9:35 AM

Cathy, should we trust oil companies and Wall executives to know is best for God's creation? How many species a year should have to go extinct before we admit we have a problem?

Global warming is too complicated for non-climate scientists to comprehend, this is why big business PR firms keep on the global warming debate!

Let's talk about mass extinctions past and NOW for a minute. Based on all estimates from conservation scientists all over earth, outlook is not good. Thousands of species go extinct every year. Human greed will likely cause an utter collapse of ecosystem after ecosystem. Although, nobody has a crystal ball to tell us when this will happen. Could be 100 years, a decade, and it could start next week.

Analogy: if you started today eating a diet of 100% fast food and chain smoking no-filter cigarettes, nobody could tell you the day of your death, but would my warning be wrong, "you are going to die soon"?

Share our earth responsibly.

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truthmonger

Feb-06-13 9:10 AM

Thanks for clarifying "the real truth" as opposed to an unreal truth?

The Lukaskian truth is what remains after we dismiss all scientific research as corrupt.

Thank the conservatives who champion free enterprise above the rights of humanity to have a clean and safe environment for future generations.

So none of you insightful skeptics wonder if the big businesses are behind this cultural movement to question the validity of science research in recent years?

When humanity escaped the stranglehold of religion, we found shelter under the promise of scientific progress with the common understanding that our cooperation would get us closer to a universal truth, not farther from it.

So in a godless generation, the Lukaskians want us to dismiss science too, throwing us all back into chaotic social darwinism, where each rational being is both wise and foolish. What is true is up to you Cathy. Voila! Rationality in the land of the free (TV watchers).

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Daniel

Feb-05-13 11:09 AM

Cathy Lukasko, I guess this means your all for the 20,000 gal of oil and brine dumped in the river?

You picked the wrong time to write this letter. oops!

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CompMan

Feb-05-13 9:18 AM

Cathy, check the media today. D&L and their associated companies being investigated for illegal dumping of over 20,000 gallons by ODNR & OEPA. Over 120 violations already against them. As a conservative I am sure you support obeying the laws of the land and proper corporate governance.

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savj1c

Feb-04-13 11:36 AM

Cathy,sometimes things are,just what they are.In this case,"Heartland" is an un-successful movie at the box office.I know you suffer terribly from liberals that are hiding behind every action,thought,idea,movie,event,movement,news article,technology,feeling,and of course,political movement.Movies often use the theme of the "Big Guy" against the "Little Guy".In fact the biblical story of "David and Goliath" is viewed by most authors as the origin of this type of story.Relax Cathy,the liberals are not going to get you!BOO!

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Billdog

Feb-04-13 10:19 AM

Now they use the empty well to inject the carcinogens that they have great difficulty disposing of. Regardless of what you believe the truth is ANYTHING you put in the ground works its way back up. If you don't believe that do some studies on the mountain ranges.

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Billdog

Feb-04-13 10:17 AM

Cathy, do you really believe that Hollywood and Foreign exporters are in conspiracy together? Most of us are not all that upset by the process of fracking itself, its the chemicals that the companies use. We know they are carcinogens. Most of the oil companies that drill do not even want to release the contents of the mixture. Other concerns are not so much the producing wells as the injection wells to dispose of the brine waste. This waste has to be gotten rid of somewhere because it is so POLLUTED they are not allowed to put it back into the water supply. I'm hoping you are aware that water is a limited resource on our planet. Everything isn't a political agenda. Some people are more educated then you and do have more information than you. Although they have been doing this for nearly 60 years, like somebody else pointed out, they use chemicals now that they didn't previously. And, once the well was depleted of its resource, it was abandoned.

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unitedfortruth

Feb-04-13 10:08 AM

reallytiredofit...i said nothing about the sun heating the planet.

however, i think you are right on that my cro-magnon friend. very well thought out indeed.

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reallytiredofit

Feb-04-13 8:39 AM

Unitedfortruth, it's not so awesome at the Artic circle. Pretty obvious that you don't comprehend the issue.

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reallytiredofit

Feb-04-13 8:36 AM

Well of course the sun plays the major role in heating the planet. We all learned thar in first grade. However the depletion of the ozone layer is what is causing the suns warmth to increase. Geeeez you are dense.

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unitedfortruth

Feb-03-13 8:21 PM

its awesome having a man made global warming discussion when its 12 degrees outside with 4 inches of snow.

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mrright

Feb-03-13 5:29 PM

to; Reallytiredofit: I wish there was man-made Global Warming. NorthEast Ohio would become a paradise, Longer growing seasons, Vacationing in sunny Ohio , abundant fishing, hunting,swimming, great golf courses,etc.

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CompMan

Feb-03-13 2:47 PM

Cathy, drilling for natural gas is not the issue whether vertical or horizontal. Wollam is on hold for now but I'm for this. The issue should be the salt water injection wells for disposal of the waste water. Potential seismic activity damage to private wells and property by the injection of up to 2,000 pressurized barrels (84,000 gallons) per day at the Uber Well 1 site is not known. This equates to approximately 15 tankers per day. I do not need to remind you this is in our residental area not an idustrial site. Kleese SWIW wells are shallow well conversions of old producing wells. This new pressurized SWIW will go almost 9,000 feet and risk are there that Brookfield and Vienns trustees (not binding with ODNR)are opposed where public water is not available. Over 30 abandoned known coal mines are in this immediate area; mostly filled with water (source ODNR 1941) Have a good day.

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CathyLukasko

Feb-03-13 2:06 PM

COMPMAN, Yes, aware of the drilling near my house. Pleased to see this and hope to see many, many more !

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