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Wed., 10;10am: Ohio schools get nearly $38 million from casinos

January 9, 2013

COLUMBUS -- The state says Ohio schools are getting nearly $38 million in the first chunk of casino-tax revenue. This is the first distribution to schools since casinos opened last yea....

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Citizen1

May-28-13 8:48 PM

And don't get me started on the number of superintendents in the county and the massive waste of taxpayer money they are.

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Citizen1

Jan-10-13 11:30 AM

jt: Just from cutting the # of superintendents in the county, we would save $3 million/year. Google the article from the trib in 2009 on superintendents salaries in Trumbull County.

We currently have 69 schools in Trumbull County. If we reduce that # to 7 high schools and 14-21 K-8 schools, we would save millions more. We already have the new facilities to support most of the K-8 schools.

Savings: 1) Larger class sizes equate to fewer # of teachers required (salary, pension, health benefits)- Millions/year in savings

2) Maintenance and utility costs of these buildings (Landscaping, electricity, gas, water, repairs) - Millions/year in savings

3) Fewer superintendents required. Again, millions/year in savings.

4) Combined athletic facilities and the savings on the maintenance that goes into them.

The savings would be well worth it.

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Citizen1

Jan-10-13 11:19 AM

jt: If only the tenants who vote realized their rent would go up if they vote yes on some of these levies.

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jtoday

Jan-10-13 9:07 AM

Citizen1 while a few small district could consolidate I think the amount of savings is overblown. You still have to educate the same number of students.

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jtoday

Jan-10-13 9:05 AM

AmericanPatriot do you think that landlords are so stupid that they don't include the amount of property tax in the rent they charge?

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raven101

Jan-10-13 5:39 AM

why is it that schools always get the money, i have an idea why not give us taxpayers a little bit of that money send them a check to their homes and help us hard working taxpayers who seem to pay for it all

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Citizen1

Jan-10-13 1:33 AM

Could combine:

!) Lakeview, Maplewood, Badger 2) Girard, Hubbard, Half of Brookfield 3) Lordstown, Newton Falls, Labrae 4) McDonald, Ridge, Niles 5) Bloomfield, Bristol, Chalker, Champion 6) Howland, Matthews, Part of Brookfield 7) Warren Harding

Utilize the current buildings and expand onto them when necessary. Sell the unused buildings/property. Cut 16 superintendants, instantly saving $3 million annually.

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thetruth

Jan-09-13 11:42 PM

Citizen1, some consolidation makes sense but I think 6 is too few. And 2 K-8 schools per high school would mean the k-8 schools would be much larger than the high schools. Realistically there should be 10-12 school districts in Trumbull County. Many small districts could be merged or absorbed by larger schools. But, the new buildings actually make consolidation harder. The schools were built based on enrollment data and projections. They aren't able to absorb large numbers of new students.

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Citizen1

Jan-09-13 9:55 PM

Could even do 6 schools with ~1550 students each if it makes more geographical sense.

Also, 2 K-8 schools per high school would make sense. Could utilize a lot of the new buildings that would be vacated for this.

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Citizen1

Jan-09-13 9:49 PM

Town School # Students Bristolville Bristol High School 284 Brookfield Brookfield High School 384 Cortland Lakeview High School 740 Cortland Maplewood High School 266 Girard Girard Senior High School 477 Hubbard Hubbard High School 710 Kinsman Badger High School 279 Leavittsburg Labrae High School 437 Mc Donald Mcdonald High School 407 Mineral Ridge Mineral Ridge High School 308 Newton Falls Newton Falls High School 402 Newton Falls Newton Falls Junior High School 234 Niles Mckinley High School 735 North Bloomfield Bloomfield High School 152 Southington Chalker High School 185 Vienna Mathews High School 250 Warren Champion High School 473 Warren Howland High School 1056 Warren Lordstown High School 247 Warren Warren G Harding High School 1584

How would you combine them into 4-5 schools?

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Citizen1

Jan-09-13 9:46 PM

Also, I agree that we should consolidate schools. We have all of these new buildings, but the savings would be so enormous that we would still benefit to walk away from (or sell) some of those buildings.

There are 22 high schools in Trumbull County with 9610 students. Why not house them in four to five facilities with ~1900-2400 students each.

Four districts and the school you attend is determined by district lines that are drawn every 5 years or so, to ensure there are roughly equal number of students in each school.

For the people who care about sports, it would create 5 division one football teams in the county.

The proposition would save millions per year just on facility costs/maintenance.

I agree that schools should be funded in a different manner as the current manner puts property owners at a huge burden. Maybe increase the sales tax in the county?

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Citizen1

Jan-09-13 9:27 PM

thetruth: Exactly what I thought when I read this.

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thetruth

Jan-09-13 5:19 PM

This is so ridiculous. You know the governor will now reduce funding to the schools just like the state did with the lottery. Instead of using the money as additional money for the schools they used it to supplant prior funding. And the amount districts will get is ridiculous. Warren has approx. 5500 students, so the district will get $115,000. Average size districts will get around $50,000 and districts like McDonald will get less than $20,000. That is absolutely meaningless.

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Daniel

Jan-09-13 1:11 PM

That comes up to about $8968 per school. Not worth all the negative activity's casinos bring to those communities that there at.

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AmericanPatriot

Jan-09-13 12:47 PM

Ohio schools need funded off of a personal income tax, not just tax the property owner. How many people rent or have 4 or 5 adults living in the same house and work. Consolidate small schools. Some schools have less than 20 graduating class. When you mention consolidation people resist because they want to keep their own athletic program. But the problem is they all have new buildings now.

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Zenieth

Jan-09-13 12:08 PM

Really? No casinos mean no gamblers. Better really? Tit for tat fact. School security really? Good luck with the someone .......

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pahootaman

Jan-09-13 11:59 AM

I'm waiting for the followup article "Ohio cuts $38 million from education budget".

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countyresident

Jan-09-13 11:36 AM

Better this money coming to Ohio vs. W.Va, Pa or NY. Gamblers were going to gamble regardless. Now, someone in Columbus needs to point this money to school security needs.

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insider

Jan-09-13 11:02 AM

Shouldn't this headline read, "Ohio schools get nearly $38 million from taxes on gambling losses, which cannibalized revenue from other Ohio businesses that pay taxes to Ohio schools too."?

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Zenieth

Jan-09-13 10:35 AM

Should we be cheering? Absolutely not as it's a double edged sword. How may children suffered by neglect of being deprived in ordeal for all of those profits to come about? Shame on you Ohio for aiding a serious sick addiction. Maybe we'll open opium dens and shooting galleries next. Sorry to say that this wasn't the answer to generate revenue, period.

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